Can anyone point me to some site or ebook I want to learn how to programm and dont tell me google ....lol, what is the best language to learn first.

IF you go through the school system the first thing they gonna teach you is c, c++. now that is all good and it gives you a better foundation to work off.
I like sending people to vb but u wont find that arround anymore, cause of .NET.
my personal favorite is Code Gear's (Borland) Delphi its easy, its RAD, solid code _base_, lots of support, lots of external components, so if you can get hold of a cd (*cough* torrent)
work with it. you will be up and going in no time
you can start here

From experience there is no "language to learn first" What i'ld advice you to do is get your programming techniques down. Get a psuedo code book and learn the core concepts of the structure..

Conditional statements
Logical operands
Variable Scopes

Pretty much somethings never change as you move from one development language to another.

What are you trying to venture into? web _base_d programming of software _base_d (run on a computer with gui) programming?

if your gonna be doing web _base_d i'ld reccomend php (partially biased to this language).. but it all depends on what your trying to do. If your gonna be doing heavy development and you might wanna cut out alot of time you might wanna try something like ruby on rails or turbo gears which uses python as its core. both both of those are _frame_works which use ruby and python respectively as their core computational / processing.

There are php _frame_ works but non really to my liking. they put too much fluff in my code that i dont really care for. So I am my own _frame_work such a _frame_ work is prado

check out the 20 minute wiki video for turbo gears. Really shows how simple it is to use

for the software development aspect I've developed in visual basic, foxpro and c++ winapi.. However I've never done anything good enough to take to the comercial level So I'll keep my comments on the software development on the low.

Also check out the web utilities category in the we_b_link__s section of tech.in876.com good _link_s are there

I completely endorse wat DK said.
From experience i can tell you that programming is the same thing no matter which language u choose, the only thing that changes is syntax.

So basically, learn pseudocode, master pseudocode and after that programming will become much easier. Alot of people ignore the pseudocode set and go straight into coding but that doesnt work as they lose the core of what they should know. I used to hate pseudocode, thought it was a waste of time, but the more languages i learned the more i realize how important pseudocode was, especially wen learning the language, cause i learned languages much quicker than everybody else in ma class who hated pseudocode.

Oh and as for startup languages... i want to say c and c++ but i must warn u that to do the things i know u want to do with c and c++ (GUI) u have to be prepared to spend long days and nights coding.

VB is one of the easiest startup languages as u can design a program wid working gui on your first try.

Post edited by: Skillachi, at: 07/04/2007 05:12pm

From being a visual basic user my self.. and watching spaz develop delphi applications I'ld say delphi for the win. Lighter and more robust code. The delphi ide is pretty good as well.

with the age of .net Maybe vb can regain its glory. But take a look at delphi.. dont turn a blind eye to the various choicese out there for rapid application development.

If your not doing anything that requires it.. I'ld say stay away from winapi (c++ gui) Takes way too long to get things done. I did a text editor back in the day.. Nice looking app all winapi.. but the damn thing was bigger than notepad (both in size of application and memory usage) yes it had better features like single document interface with multiple document capabilities. but the memory usage was too much.. also when you kill the application window's didn't unload it from memory.. it had a memory leak issue. (this same problem terrorizes windows users all the time.. applications being in memory after being closed and so on.) Winapi can be a real headache. but it is fun

Well I wanted to do both wed development (so i can work on my site *cough 876radio* cough free ads lol) and an also make programs for pc etc.
just don't know where to start.

You know i was just about to tell CP to talk to you guys at 876 radio about some advertisement on both sides lol

Finally i know who you are now jamerican lol. Well the c's and php are quite similar so those are nice places to start

lol cool so who is you??